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Post by xxp3riwink1exx on Apr 28, 2015 12:55:29 GMT -8
Alright so let’s just get down to business, like just tbr, tbh, all those acronyms that say somethings serious, or some basic button is entitled and thinks every opinion in their pin cushion needs to go up on the bulletin. You can take it either way, but -on the level- since the forums went down I’ve had a lot of pent up thoughts really. Like no one’s business. So I’m sorry first off, because not going to take the time to bust out the safety scissors like usual.
I am so pissed no one is fucking interested in crafting.
It’s like it’s invisible to everyone. No one takes an interest. Or they think you’re some crazy old biddy if you do pull out a skein of yarn. They look at you like you’re from another planet. Which I get it, you know in a “social” context no one really sees crafting as anything relevant. Not relevant enough at least. We’re all fully aware though, in America if it’s not relevant to “me” it’s not relevant at all. And when things aren’t relevant they aren’t seen.
It just really makes me pissed as a pin prick. Crafting is basically my life, and I can’t even hold a conversation. What I get is judgmental looks silenced by pity as they expect you to finish the conversation yourself or better yet, let them escape. You can almost hear it,
Please god let me escape, I just wanted my cheap frappe mocha bullshit, should have gone to starbucks. Oh.. oh god, they’re still talking...
Occasionally if you’re lucky you’ll get an, “Oh um… yeah…?..?” which really is just a tone to seamlessly pair the uncomfortable expression. As if the expression wasn't enough. No no, thank you gentlemen, I’ll be sure to add this square to my feelings quilt, since you just so improved my day.
With that reaction, why even talk about it? No matter how important it is?
You can’t really even talk to anyone, because they don’t know anything and they don’t care to learn. And, frankly… I don’t think they’d care much even if they did know. I admit for a long time I didn’t, but that doesn’t make it any bit less annoying.
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Post by kenoanthisi on Apr 29, 2015 0:36:41 GMT -8
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Bro, like, I started out crafting real young you know? Like, it was just playing around when I was little but my family was all like NAH KENO DO MORE CIVILIZED SHIT, stop talking bout your stupid needle pushing shit and would just pat my head. Rude af tbqh. Then like later they were like--I think you need someone to talk to this obsession of yours with cuz you're worrying us. Like it's just fucking sewing or whatever--and then yeah. I got a psychiatrist. People be trippin, then I just started chillin on here till the thread died. That was the worst few months let me fucking tell you--But yeah so, I feel you. I mean, you know, as much as I can. You seem to got more uhh--clever or whatever feelings about it hahahaha My family is just like. Nah Keno, not today. Not ever
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Post by xxp3riwink1exx on Apr 29, 2015 2:17:47 GMT -8
wow. wow. That's.... insanely ridiculous. I've never had to deal with that kind of-- whatever that situation was... my word.
When I first started crafting, I just never talked about it honestly. Not with family. Not with anybody, it never came up. For a long time it was just my thing. Now though, that I'm openly interested and want to be openly interested, the stigma that's out there. I had no idea. I don't know, I want someone to ask about it, at least turn their head and?? That would alone be nice. but nope.
When I got really openly interested- was just long after my family was able to give me those glances. I think they might though, maybe, if I ever opened my mouth about it. I just never saw the point to before recently. At least the forums are back though. I definitely, did not take that as well as I could have, but I mean you couldn't have been sure they would even come back honestly...
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Post by quinnquinn on Apr 29, 2015 2:30:29 GMT -8
Wish someone who crafted talked to me when I was younger. Not a single soul told me how to keep such obsession in check - I've suffered greatly for my passion. It changed me. I am no longer the same person anymore, though I would like to be there to encourage others like me to keep it together.
It has not been the most easy road, seeing how deep I am into crafting now, down the line... suffering for your art much?
Keno, at least you have these people here for you. You don't need a psychiatrist - you have us. I am most glad to hear that your experiences will certainly not be a repeat of my own.
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Post by solarpowered on Apr 29, 2015 2:51:37 GMT -8
Hey Peri, we all getcha. Touts the reason for this forum, we have to support each other. Gotta be a bit easy on these normal non-crafters too tho, it's not their fault that they don't understand. They just don't see the same things we see, it's like trying to get a blind person to understand color. You can try to describe color and the intricacies of the shade blue till the cows come home but nothing actually replaces actually seeing it, ya know? Those who are born with sight are fortunate.
Anyways, FORUMS ARE BACK, MAN, so we gotcha back, peri.
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Post by essenceoflarioja on Apr 29, 2015 20:12:10 GMT -8
It's threads like these that make me really thankful for the family I was raised in. My whole family is in the craft, not like me mind you, but my parents have a full-blown occupation with the works of crafts. Fixing the tears and stains from neglect if you get what I mean.
However I still understand what you are saying never the less. Mi hermanita mayor isn't too fond of the occupation despite everything. She even gave me a concussion once when we were kids because I made a few puns! Sure they were around some customers, but who cares? At least I had the ol' Ma and Pop on my side though, eh? Though that may have just made her even worse acting..... Oh well I guess. ┐(´-｀)┌
Anyway, what was the point I was getting to? Whatever I guess doesn't matter too much. At least there is the glorious sanctuary of the internet. It really doesn't matter what you like-- you could ask around for people who want to do a complete, live reenactment of the Bee Movie and I bet you fifty bucks you'll find more people who want to in your area than you could count on your fingers. Then that gleeful boy or girl will soon find themselves meeting even more boys and girls in an open field all wearing bumble suits they made themselves. So much black and yellow. So much Bee Movie. Thanks internet.
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Post by xxp3riwink1exx on Apr 29, 2015 21:15:58 GMT -8
Yeah I realize that it can be difficult, and I try to be a bit gentler because I know they aren't on the level.
Though at the same time, they really aren't even open to it at all. Not that people are open to most things. Still makes it really hard to deal with the non-crafty in general, to be frankly honest. Also if they put up with a conversation or two it might be more bearable but well… *shrugs*
To me it really becomes less teaching the blind about color and more like leading a cow to water and the thing refusing to drink. But that's just my opinion
But yeah really quinnquinn I get that. I feel the worst for the young crafters, because I didn't realize and it took a lot longer to get where I am because of that. Supplies and resources can be really hard to find, and when there’s never anyone to help it’s even worse. The environment is ridiculously deficient supportive and I think that’s why there’s forums alike this and Pinterest. I am very glad the forums are back and there are people here that know their rotary cutter from there seam ripper, and know what it's like to be lost in a project. Hard to find other places.
Essence though, I’m curious, did they know about your crafting kind of like keno or?? Was it just didn't mix well with them? I could completely understand either, it’s kind of like q.q. was saying it isn't the easiest hobby to juggle with the non-crafty, especially when you have the natural draw towards it. Some skill with a needle and thread can make a person unpalatable to the fabric glue crowd.
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Post by toinfinityandbeyonce on Apr 29, 2015 21:43:40 GMT -8
It's threads like these that make me really thankful for the family I was raised in. My whole family is in the craft, not like me mind you, but my parents have a full-blown occupation with the works of crafts. Fixing the tears and stains from neglect if you get what I mean.
However I still understand what you are saying never the less. Mi hermanita mayor isn't too fond of the occupation despite everything. She even gave me a concussion once when we were kids because I made a few puns! Sure they were around some customers, but who cares? At least I had the ol' Ma and Pop on my side though, eh? Though that may have just made her even worse acting..... Oh well I guess. ┐(´-｀)┌
Anyway, what was the point I was getting to? Whatever I guess doesn't matter too much. At least there is the glorious sanctuary of the internet. It really doesn't matter what you like-- you could ask around for people who want to do a complete, live reenactment of the Bee Movie and I bet you fifty bucks you'll find more people who want to in your area than you could count on your fingers. Then that gleeful boy or girl will soon find themselves meeting even more boys and girls in an open field all wearing bumble suits they made themselves. So much black and yellow. So much Bee Movie. Thanks internet.
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Post by essenceoflarioja on Apr 29, 2015 21:46:45 GMT -8
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Post by kenoanthisi on Apr 29, 2015 22:37:29 GMT -8
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Nah, my family just thought I was crazy  They love me though, just didn't understand. See like, they're both top bitch in their fields, sooo they wanted me to follow or supersede them in some other field, sewing was not and is not the field they're having. So when they caught me like--really avidly talking about it with one of my homes (who they practically pretend doesn't exists) they got worried. Sat me down and everything, really stupid buuuut after I went and talked to my psychiatrist (she's really nice) I kind of learned what to say what not to, just go and paruse the crafting aisles idly and ignore any urges to talk about it. At least I got my homie IRL tho. Probably woulda gone crazy with out him hahaha
I agree about needing community though. Idk, if I had parents who knew or whatever shit woulda been a lot easier on me. They'd help me get my supplies, teach me how to put the thread through the needle sort to speak. But nah. So this community is real important, and MissBeyonceWannaBee right there really ain't helping. We got feels man, take your friendly banter some where else--And that freaking Bee movie hurts the man :''''''''' )--Who ever thought that was a good idea clearly needed to rethink their life choices and endeavors. [got to many feels for this shit for that bee movie to bee butting in--] |
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Post by quinnquinn on Apr 30, 2015 2:06:18 GMT -8
Peri, when I found this forum I was just utterly shocked that I hadn't come across a crafter earlier. There are so many of us. Where were they all back then? I want to be there for any young crafters. If you know of any please send them my way. The least I can do is help those not be wayward with their hobby.
Keno, at least you know how to handle matters. I was never that intuitive with that and look where I am now... Crafting is growing more and more popular, so at least there is the support out there for those like us. I missed out on community, until now.
If any of you need to talk to someone, let me know. I will be most willing to pay you a visit in person, if that can be arranged. I seem to leave my home less and less these days. Visiting and meeting people outside is rather enjoyable from time to time.
I have little to no interest for that either, TIAB.
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Post by essenceoflarioja on Apr 30, 2015 6:55:02 GMT -8
That distracted me. Whoopsie doop. Anyway! Back to answering questions.
No P3ri, they definitely don't know my full talent. At least I don't think so. All I know is she started pushing it as far away as she possibly could around when I started going to school. So it was probably the kids. Children are so mean sometimes. There's not much I can do about it though. Especially not now. I'm not going to limit myself just because one or two people don't agree with my ideals.
Hopefully no one broke too bad when the site went down? I mean, where else would they have gone if you really think about it.
((Sorry guys. Gotta stay true to my mood-breaking, rude character. lmao. ))
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Post by xxp3riwink1exx on Apr 30, 2015 11:11:10 GMT -8
Yeah no for real Keno
Anyway tho, putting that behind us- If they had their own ambitions in mind for you, I could see crafting just... being out of the question. Especially the more avid you are. Especially if they were trying to nip it in the bud, because it seems like it was when you were younger. At least your psychiatrist seemed to be on your side, or was it more?? She didn't understand but she still wanted to help you? Though I’ll say regardless that’s more than most; humoring the idea- it’s very different than her actually, getting it for what it is.
Your friend being there is great, and lucky for you. Dealing with that pressure and subverting everything all the time, to keep from prying eyes. Wouldn't wish it on anyone, and sure as hell not alone. Is he a crafter too? Or just- not an idiot?
q.q. No I felt the same. Though all the sudden not that long ago I searched high and low, everywhere for something, a scrap. Found more communities than you could think of for every shade before I finally found this face. Picked up some interesting characters along the way, but even though I was looking, and oh I was, I think it was a matter of luck that I actually found something.
I think it’s because the interest is so subverted, most crafters probably assume people like themselves wouldn't be online with others. If they even thought there were others. Honestly, and I mean with places like JoAnn’s and Michael's I was probably being delusional, but I didn't even really think there were others. It just wasn’t something I thought about, community just wasn't?? A possibility?
Not until recently.
I think a lot of crafters felt that way before places like the thread, and there are probably plenty who still do. I mean I’m sure somewhere, rare maybe, others have dealt with and are dealing with reactions even as extreme as Keno’s-
And honestly I wonder without a friend or someone there like he had, how could you really even deal? How you would even think there was a community, or even anyone who had picked up a knitting needle? Why would you think it was even okay for anyone under the age of sixty? Or worse think they're the same as the geezers who’s minds left the with their last serving of pistachio pudding. ((Though tbh that shit is actually delicious))
and Side note though that offer is really nice q.q. I’m sure a lot of crafters would deal with black string doily crochet for the chance. Legit, very nice of you.
Yeah well- *glances upward* in any case Essa -I’m just going to shorten it to that think that’s fine- sometimes you don’t mesh with people. Maybe it was better they weren't aware, if they were things could have been worse and who needs that on top of trying to keep your own rows straight? But yeah that’s exactly it- I've looked for a place like this like I mentioned above. None of them are really the same, thought I may have just been picky and spoiled; but I also think most of us here know the forums have a really unique air to them. Not one you can find elsewhere, not really.
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Post by quinnquinn on May 1, 2015 23:03:35 GMT -8
Peri, back then I didn't know I should have been looking for it. I was too young to really understand that my parents cared so little about such things. I talked and pestered them so much they would put me in a corner and tell me to stop. The consequences of my actions are not something I would care to be repeated for you, or any of the souls here. In the end the right kind of help found me instead.
Personally it took me a while to gather the courage to come online like this, till I realised I could offer support for others like you. It is reassuring and most definitely a good reason to be here. I regret it none. I am glued to this hobby now, if you will.
I was once like Keno, though his situation has turned out a lot more positively than my own. I am happy for him. I am happy for anyone who is able to enjoy crafting as passionately as the want, and not be ridiculed for it. We as a community need far less of that.
You're most welcome, Peri. A PM would not be out of place either, should anyone need that. This is a very special place that we all should embrace and make full use of.
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They love me though, just didn't understand. See like, they're both top bitch in their fields, sooo they wanted me to follow or supersede them in some other field, sewing was not and is not the field they're having. So when they caught me like--really avidly talking about it with one of my homes (who they practically pretend doesn't exists) they got worried. Sat me down and everything, really stupid buuuut after I went and talked to my psychiatrist (she's really nice) I kind of learned what to say what not to, just go and paruse the crafting aisles idly and ignore any urges to talk about it. At least I got my homie IRL tho. Probably woulda gone crazy with out him hahaha