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Post by kenoanthisi on Apr 28, 2015 20:02:48 GMT -8
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°˖✧Topic Subject✧˖° [F▪U▪N F▪A▪C▪T▪S]
┍Seeing as how we're all a big demographic and share many experiences among each other (at least we did on the old forum) I figured it'd be interesting to share fun facts and just make that a thing. Last time I did this it got a bit out of hand, but I think, if we keep some rules, we can make some really good friends AND learn. Sound fun? Awesome.┙
°˖✧Rules of this topic✧˖°
┍ONE┙List at least 2 fun facts, they can be on the same thing or dif things. All's good either way.
┍TWO┙Be nice and if you want to correct don't be an ass about it. No one likes a kill joy yo
┍THREE┙Do not fucking copy wiki man, this ain't a school essay, we're doin this for funsies.
┍FOUR┙ Feel free to put in pictures! Examples are always welcome : )
┍FIVE┙Please don't just do things like "And this is how you make a PBJ sandwich. We all know that...Do new things! Interesting things! Think Trivia!
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Post by kenoanthisi on Apr 28, 2015 20:12:25 GMT -8
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K R O K O S | P O M E G R A N T [Crocus sativus | Punica granatum]
[PERSEPHONE'S BOUQUET | ABDUCTION] These plants are associated with Persephone because in the myth in which she was abducted by Hades she was picking this plant[krokos] among others to put in her bouquet. Unfortunately for the goddess she was tricked into consuming the pomegranate seed...Though to be honest she seemed more like she ate it because she wanted to return. Either way she was sent back to the underworld ,and those who basically said "Ooooh I saw uuuuu" were punished by Demeter with a giant ass rock laying over them for the rest of forever in Hades some place.
The other flowers they were picking along with the nymphs was rose, iris, lily, and larkspur. Quiet beautiful bouquet tbh.
Also, Persephone was absolutely scary in greek mythology. People would rather take Hades name in vain than hers. Only a few people were even PERMITED to say her name, because when the hammer came down, it was her, not Hades. Hades was actually pretty lenient tbh
[METAMORPHOSIS KROKOS] This flower is also supposedly the transformed body of a boy whom was like hella loved by Hermes, and that's why it's got the red stem, because of the blood of his loved one. Fun! And when I say loved, I mean like he wanted to get down with this guy, #hellahomo --Thanks greek myths for not being afraid to get gay! H E L L E B O R O S [Helleborus cyclophyllus]
[THE PROITIDES] This is a little weird...So basically there were these three daughters, princesses actually. They were meant to be worshipers of Dionysus but refused their mystic rights so as punishment Dionysus made them go mad. Because you know, he's the god of madness among other things. So they flee to the mounts and end up feasting on the flesh of babies which they breast feed (freaky, I know, gotta love greek myths). Hearing King Proitos plees a seer goes and finds them and cures their insanity with Hellebore, specifically the green ones.
N A R C I S S U S [Amaryllidaceae] Narcissus, we all know who that guy is of course, but do we know how he got there? There are two stories, so I'll share both.
[ECHO]
A mountain nymph known as echo basically fell in love with him. Due to prior issues with the gods, because she just didn't know how to shut up and one day just crossed the wrong goddess ( which is even the right amiright?) she was cursed to only repeat the last words said back to her for the rest of forever. So she falls in love with Narcissus but for whatever reason ends up dying and in her death calls upon the goddess Nemesis (She's the goddess of revenge and justice) to make Narcissus feel her pain. Because basically when she said "i love you" for the first time it was because Narcissus was talking to himself while hunting and he was like AHHHH and she was like AHHH and then he scorned her and just really hurt the poor baby...Real shame, Narcissus was an ass. [AMEINIAS]
A male admirer basically goes up to Narcissus and offers him this fine ass sword and Narcissus is like nah, I'm good fuck off...But in like a "Why don't you use that sword on yourself" kind of way. Classy you know? And he does, and on the door step of his home he calls upon Nemesis to avenge him. To make Narcissus feel all the pain he has caused any who sought after him. Told you he was an ass.
So this is where the stories converge, basically he ends up being led along to some to the forest and a pond and there are stories that argue he drowns into his reflection trying to make out with himself OR he withers away to alongside the banks and the plant grows out of him from there. That one is my favorite.
These plants also grow on the banks of the river styx!
[ACTUAL FLOWER THO] THOUGH, I wouldn't recommend handling these flowers a lot because they are poisonous. A lot of breeders and botanists tend to get "daffodil itch" which is like, you skin gets rough and shitty and it just sucks. It's kind of like an annoying rash and when you make bouquets of them with other flowers, the other flowers die quicker because of the poison. It just sucks. I mean, people use to use these flowers for actual poison to kill themselves, it's pretty bad but kind of cool! It makes sense they'd be poisonous considering their myth
That's just an idea of things to share, it can literally be ANYTHING guys, like A N Y T H I N G. Sooo don't be afraid to jump subjects! I'll probably mainly post about stuff like this though Sorry--Hope you like greek myths??? :''' )
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Post by ChurroChariots on Apr 28, 2015 21:09:54 GMT -8
CHARIOT FUN FACTS
1. The Roman deities related to chariot racing were the sun god Sol and the moon goddess Luna, as well as an agricultural god named Consus. Sol and Luna were tied to chariot racing because they actually drove chariots themselves, soaring through the day or night sky as they made their routes around the earth. Originally races were only really held on religious festivals like the Consualia―the yearly festival that celebrated Consus!―but they eventually started being held on non-religious days when high-ranking officials sponsored them. Other feast-days include Sol Indiges's--which is an earlier form of Sol, so he's kind of the same person but not?―which was celebrated on December 11, and Sol and Luna's, which was held on August 28 and was usually commemorated with games like chariot racing.
2. Chariot races were held in circuses, like the famous Circus Maximus, and were named that because of the fact that...well...it was a circular track/arena. Not very creative, admittedly, but it gets the point across, yeah?
3. Charioteers belonged to different teams and wore the color of the team they were on. Betting and supporting teams could get pretty fierce, and people would even curse specific charioteers in the hopes that their preferred charioteer would win instead! Not much has changed if you think about it haha.
Btw, Kenoathisi, I like your choice of facts! Mythology's always a good way to start things off.
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Post by kenoanthisi on Apr 28, 2015 21:47:38 GMT -8
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[C A T - C H A R I O T ]
There's this one Nordic god named Freya who's chariot is pulled by cats--Thought that'd be fun, after all, we're on the internet. What's the internet without cats right? [MINOAN CULTURE]
So, what's amazing about this culture is well--tbh everything . So, Crete, an island off of Greece basically is like 10x more advanced than any culture for the next fucking thousand years or something. Their architecture, artistic renditions--ect everything. It's fucking tight. Basically like, they have this structure where they put wood between the stone to help during earthquakes to stableize their buildings. They had such an amazing understanding of nature because like at all times of the day sunlight permeates a lot of the building and the air flow is like driven through to keep things cool. It's just--SO COOL. Annnd they even had full on clay irigation and pipes, that hooked up to a fucking bathroom. We're talking like at least a 100 years till the Greeks or Romans ever got any of that.
They call it "Minoan" though because it's supposed to be connected to the King Minos who lived on an island nation and was like a keeper of one of the first naval ship fleets. Basically one day he's like EY FUCK U POSEIDON, GIVE ME YO BEST SHOT, and Poseidon is like Uh sure okay, and he sends out this gorgeous ass bull. That basically wrecks EVERTHING (#getwrekt) then what was worse LMFAO Is his wife falls in love with the bull and they get it on and she gives birth to the Minotaur, which basically becomes King Minos' downfall and his nation just goes to shit and he even has like 3 people from Athens come every year just to feed them to him in the Labyrinth. This island just so happens to really fit the description! So the english dude who found it was like HA, Minoan, it's the least we can do for the dude. I mean his wife fucked a bull. Awkward
[C A R R I O N F L O W E R S]These flowers are HUGE and smell like rotting flesh. Some of them they even compare to dicks because-- well...[Titan Arum] And I'm sure you understand why now. Then the largest flower in the world is a carrion flower as well. It was found in the amazon.[Rafflesiaceae]
They smell like rotting flesh to attract flies and other pollinators (They can even trap them), they don't really do anything other than you know...Smell like dead bodies FFFF
Theres more of course, those are just the more well known : )
Duuude those chariot facts were so tight, I just had to tell you about the cat one hahaha and then I had to follow my own rules so had to give more facts :''' D Buut dude, keep goin! That's so cool! And yeah, the Greeks are great! I like some Roman stuff to but really don't like how they down play their chick gods. Especially Athena/Minerva--
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Post by tombraider on Apr 28, 2015 22:54:27 GMT -8
I love this thread! There are probably people here who have much better knowledge of these things than I do, but here are some interesting facts.
The Venetian Vampire: In the sixteenth century, vampires were believed by some to be behind the spread of plagues like the Black Death. Gravediggers who reopened mass graves would sometimes see bodies moving from internal gas (or with blood seeping from their mouths) and believe them to be alive, feeding on the other bodies. To stop these "vampires", the death shroud was removed from the corpse's face and a brick was shoved into their mouths to prevent them from eating.
The Terracotta Army: As a tribute to the armies of Qin Shi Huang, the first Emperor of China (210–209 BCE), an estimated 8,000 stone soldier figures were carved in a massive sculpture army. This enormous collection was not discovered until 1974, by local farmers who were digging to create a well. Along with the soldiers, an entire city was carved out for the emperor. It's believed that the army was built to protect and serve the emperor after his death.
I don't have much knowledge beyond what I've studied, so I look forward to reading more facts from those with better information than my books.
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Post by ChurroChariots on Apr 28, 2015 22:56:10 GMT -8
1. There once was a Roman emperor named Commodus who would dress up as Hercules and fight people in the gladiator arenas, and he had even had a statue of himself wearing symbols of Hercules' seven trials, like the golden apple and the pelt of a lion. Many people thought he was crazy because of this . He had a lot of problems and wasn't really fit to be an emperor, but what can you do when the guy's got royal blood and was declared successor? Not much, really, besides conspire to have him offed.
2. The play Antigone is the third story in the trilogy involving Oedipus―the same one the complex is named after―but was written first. Jan Anouilh did a translation of the play in the 1940s that had political undertones revolving around the Nazis who were occupying France. He took advantage of the fact that the Nazis wouldn't pay close attention to the play to show parallels to the French Resistance and the rejection of corrupt authority.
That cat chariot is even better than regular chariots . Glad you liked the facts though, and yeah tbh Greek mythology is pretty cool. The Romans did downplay a few things, but I think it's partially because of the times. Not much can be done about it tho.
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Post by kenoanthisi on Apr 29, 2015 0:16:12 GMT -8
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[AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON]
This transformation sequence in the 1980's "American Werewolf In London" revolutionized the face of 1980's effects and make up for all the movies to come. Till this movie, there hadn't been a full fledged transformation sequence so realistic. In fact it is this scene that earned it the Rated R title. To create this effect they used a mixture of robotics, backwards filming, make-up, prosthetics, and a new type of inflating foam for features like the maw as shown above. Also awarding it recognition is the make up effects for Jack in his many features in the film during his stages of decomposition.
[ A T H E N A ]
I've got a lot of feelings on Athena, but I'll only talk about a couple of them hahaha. My first bit is about Ouranos, but it'll get to the real point in a bit. So basically Ouranous is primordial god of the sky, husband of Gaea ect and when he had his kids, well...That didn't go to well. Kronos killed his dad, from his balls springs Aphrodite and from his blood lots of other creatures to--Either way, when that happened basically the fates were like BRO, welp, karma is gonna bite you in the ass, your kid is gonna kill you. So that's why Kronos eats his fucking kids because he's just like HA NOT IF THEIR IN MY STOMACH BETCH, but he misses Zues and Zues frees his siblings and they take down Kronos and then Zues gets the same thing said to him by the fates. That he's going to be taken down by one of his kids. Apparently it was meant to be none other than, Athena. How tight is that right? A chick to lead the pantheon, really cool right? But nope, Zues eats her to, but get this...Athena just absolutely refuses to not be fucking born so she bursts forth from Zues' head fully equipped with armor, weapon in hand, but because her birth isn't natural she's not able to take the throne or hit her full potential, talk about shit technicalities. So like when the Romans came over they basically were like WOW look at all our shit gods, lets take these guys gods and they did. They changed the names, gave them different roles ect--Now for the most part I kind of like the new personalities of these gods but liiiiike, I ain't having what they did to Athena. So Athena, goddess of Wisdom, War Strategy, Crafts, ect and I just--when they brought her over to Rome they made her "Mineva" and turned her into such a much more house hold god. She became mainly the goddess of crafts and they took all the strength and war out of her. Even worse, they gave it to Mars (Ares). Ares in myths was always like a beserker god and Athena was the one who went in with a cool mind and the plan, but Mars Ultar is incredibly military oriented and very organized. These changes happened because the Romans weren't like the Greeks in the sense that they didn't really hold a lot of stock in woman or their strength and being a military society they just adapted the gods how they saw fit. I'm for Nicki Minaj you know what I mean, that whole feminist thing so it hurt so bad when they like--hurt the homie Athena. It kills the man :' ) Fucking Minerva... [ G R A V E Y A R D S H I F T ]
Basically from my understanding there was a time where basically they buried a lot of people who were alive and in order to make absolutely sure they were dead they just burry them with a string attached and it attached to a bell, and there'd be a guy who would just go around the grave at night checking if people were dead or not. Sometimes when the bells rang they assumed these people were vampires and then they actually murdered them...Ignorance is bliss right? Not LMFAO
Omg, bro--Sarah Croft dude, like--That vampire one got me laughing LMFAO that must have looked so awkward-- I just had to do my graveyard shift one just to like, counter that because wow, can you imagine, a bell goes off, you steak the person and jam a brick in their mouth? Pretty redic And mister churro sir, sounds like you got yourself some feels on Commodus HMM? : )
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Post by tombraider on Apr 29, 2015 0:56:13 GMT -8
Sarah Croft? . Well, I'm glad you liked my facts! Yours and Churrochariots are great to read. Here are some more: Speaking of horror, one distinct features of mummified Egyptians are their famous "screaming" mouths. Unless the chins are strapped to the head, mouths will fall open; most mummies exhibit this. The Acambaro figures found in Acambaro, Mexico, caused a huge stir in the scientific community. Hundreds of dinosaur-like figures were unearthed, and this led to speculation that the ancients had their own archaeologists in the past. However, it was later decided that the figures were nothing more than an elaborate hoax. (As a note, I hate to hear that about Athena... if it helps, today she's much more well-known than 'Minerva')
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Post by xxp3riwink1exx on Apr 29, 2015 1:20:27 GMT -8
I very much like this forum. Very new idea and I appreciate the myths, even more the flower things. Always the flower things. Seems-- like you really do have feelings on Athena lol, at least our dear sarah has your back.
I mostly know about faerie tales and European lore, for instance faerie rings, most people know about them. Their circular rings of mushrooms. They were pretty much figured to be where faeries had danced the night before, and the day after ward the ring appeared. Or in Germany they thought that it was the dancing site of witches. Most lore warned against entering faerie circles for various reasons. Basically though it was considered very disrespectful to the faerie folk, or worse very entertaining for them. Honestly the entertainment value was far more likely. Faeries did love a good several decades of watching a man dance until he was crying in pain and exhaustion. Faerie rings were the entrance to Avalon and considered something more in their world than ours, after one step in you were pretty much lost, maybe for a day maybe for years. That was pretty common though, in fearie encounters, especially if you made the mistake of enjoying yourself. You'd step into the party just planning to stay a minute, go in go out and years had passed. Thank god you didn't try the food. Being a hypochondriac would never work more in your favor. There were some ways to avoid it most of them the classic way to avoid faerie trouble, such as iron or Christian prayer. I’ve always wanted to see a bio bioluminescent one, but none of the species that can from in to the formation are. There is one called that’s purple and has the inner consistency of chocolate cake though. Though ibr, totally got this off wiki, I forget when? Calvatia Cyathiformis apparently it’s edible too. Wouldn’t that be a fucked up birthday prank? Then keeping on mushrooms though. Toadstools, a really common name for mushrooms, especially the less safe to eat kind were actually called this because they were often portrayed in fairytales to be where toads perched. Mushrooms were also considered to be used by faeries as tables, and umbrellas. All that. Mushrooms always.
--but on a side note on the archaeological hoax, really honestly wouldn't bout the conspiracy, always someone trying to stir things. Would be really interesting if that wasn't something, I don't feel like we give old cultrues enough credit.
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Post by ChurroChariots on Apr 29, 2015 4:25:03 GMT -8
1. Much like graffiti art or writings on public bathrooms(very classy btw), the Romans used to write on building walls and could say some pretty vulgar things. There are traces of the type of things they used to write in Pompeii, due to the city being so well preserved. (I'll direct you to a website that showcases some of the graffiti, they're a little too vulgar for me to type here, I think. Don't want to get in trouble . www.pompeiana.org/resources/ancient/graffiti%20from%20pompeii.htm ) Lmao you always think current day people were different from ancient civilizations, but really the basics usually stay the same.
2. I think this one is more common knowledge, but even though people think highly of Socrates nowadays, a lot of the high-ranking people disliked him because he made fools out of them. They eventually tried to have him executed because their pride was so wounded, and said that he was corrupting the youth―because they needed a reason other than their egos to put him behind bars lmao.
Lmao my feelings on Commodus are just that he's....interesting. You just don't see a man who pretends to be a legend and have no opinion on it. I really like this thread tho, the faerie, vampire, and movie facts are great! I feel like I need more interesting facts . Very sorry about Athena tho; it's kinda how different cultures morph the meaning of things from other cultures without really realizing it (i.e. karma not actually being a reward or punishment for your behavior, tho most people think that's what it is).
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Post by mrslayton44 on Apr 29, 2015 5:30:37 GMT -8
Ah wow, so much interesting information you all have to share. I really enjoy reading it all and seeing the images as well. And that cat chariot was great.
And ancient graffiti, it's really funny to imagine people running around in togas and painting vulgar things on important landmarks. Not that I'd do it myself but I guess it's just a funny image.
Keep on sharing the info everyone and I'll keep coming back to read it. Who knows it might help me with my puzzles one day.
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Post by JayThorne on Apr 29, 2015 6:41:54 GMT -8
To that one post that mentioned Freya's chariot being pulled by cats, yeah, that's accurate. They're believed to be ancestors to what people call Norwegian Forest Cats today. The huge things are heavy and they're usually given to women as wedding gifts. At least in Scandinavia, they did, during the viking era. No more household pests //laugh
While I'm still here, I'll throw in a few more things;
-I doubt this is anything new, but the vikings liked their riddles, sagas, stories and songs. Yeah, not very hot news. Everybody knows that's where the Poetic Edda comes in.
-Something that might be mildly interesting; Viking men normally live up to their 40s. They don't live very long. The women normally live up to about 35 due to dangers of childbirth.
- Oh. If people thought beating the shit out of each other was the only way vikings settle disputes and arguments, they're wrong. Normally they settle things through ordeals. Ordeals are something like tests of bravery, the most common ones (that I've read about) being picking stones out of boiling water or carrying hot iron for 9 paces. Cool stuff.
Think that's all I got for now.
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Post by kenoanthisi on Apr 29, 2015 9:14:38 GMT -8
Ah wow, so much interesting information you all have to share. I really enjoy reading it all and seeing the images as well. And that cat chariot was great. And ancient graffiti, it's really funny to imagine people running around in togas and painting vulgar things on important landmarks. Not that I'd do it myself but I guess it's just a funny image. Keep on sharing the info everyone and I'll keep coming back to read it. Who knows it might help me with my puzzles one day. K E N O A N T H I S I
Love that you're enjoying this thread! It's awesome, but gotta follow the rules hun, share some facts~ You shared 0, I need 2! Help a brotha out!
Example:
1. One of Dionysus' animal symbols is "Dolphins" why? I don't know, asses to, and the leopard 2. Iris has no symbol other than the rainbow, it's just unfortunate really :' (
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Post by xxtressrosexx on Apr 29, 2015 11:00:16 GMT -8
Since I've seen a lot of flower facts and green in color. I'll talk about wall paper.
In the Victorian era. Do to many things becoming cheap and accessible to the home. The value of living becoming a thing at the time. I.e the more stuff you have in your home measures how comfortable your living. So within that era clutter was a thing. And due to gas lighting being a thing as well. Victorian home owners had the ability to use more vibrant colors for their walls, furniture and every little thing they could. The most popular color was Sheraton Green, I believe... Sheele's Green Due to its vibrancy and long lasting dye. (Green in general at the time was more popular due to how others saw you as. In a rather dignified manner, compared to other colors). Now the issue with the actual manufacturing and dye used with in these wallpaper colors. Was that it had large quantities of arsenic with in it. So this lead to various deaths among the homes. Whether a child had chewed on it.. or even due to some of the toxins being airborne. But I guess you're wondering why they didn't just open a window or something if it was airborne. This is Victorian England, industrial revolution. Smog was outside not fresh air. Windows were mostly kept on lock, so to unsuspecting victims.. they thought their homes were safe.
Now, also thinking of unsafe things in the home. The Edwardian period was no joke either. One of the main killers then, and even now, due to their neglect, and because they thought it was a good idea at the time was, Asbestos. In times where they want it fast and in mass production. Asbestos was cheap and had a lot of possibilities. It was used as insulation, used to make cloths, fabrics, dishware, silverware, used with in the pipes that connected to their running water. It wasn't until decades later that they regulated it and or discontinued its use. Even now its still a danger .. v u v ;; because it all hasn't been taken out of homes made at the time.
And there are my two facts!
Small edit; can't be spreading wrong information. Whoops!
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Post by cossack on Apr 29, 2015 14:06:40 GMT -8
Cossack men wear one, crescent silver ear-ring on their left ear if they are the only son. They wear two ear rings, if they are the only man of the family.
Cossacks also believe that they all go to hell. That why they all have hairlocks ( one long streak of hair, head shaved completely otherwise ), especially when they leave home and go to war. If they die, they go to hell.. but because God loves them and they love God and God knows they killed for love, He pulls them out of hell by the hairlock.
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